PLACE YOUR BETS!

ULTra is counting down to its debut at Heathrow, so naturally the Minnesota anti-PRT propagandist is trying to give it his own special frame:

Humidor, today at Daily Kos (as usual, the comments are the entertaining part)
The repost at Viropop (these comments might prove interesting)

Yes, make no mistake about it. ULTra is coming; it's about to start its final commissioning phase prior to going into public service. Kenwood fears ULTra; it will mean the death of his underlying propaganda claims, claims such as:

"There is certainty that PRT is impossible"
and
"...the headway problem is a problem no technology can fix."

These claims have been disproved over the decades, and ULTra's own program has disproven them too. But this is the official opening at Heathrow we're talking about! Kiln Ovendoor has to put out his garbage now, so that when people who see ULTra's debut in the media go Googling for more information, they'll find the results sprinkled with his propaganda. He will create uncertainty in the minds of a few people, and maybe they will find his Roadkill Bill website, and buy his book.

I'm really hoping he'll take the gentleman's wager I'm proposing. Of course, he also backed out of his agreement to debate Atren -- so no breath-holding here.

Update: NO BET!

We have again achieved "Whatever"-ness (see "Fri May 22, 2009 at 11:13:43 AM PDT" -- adjust for your time zone!)

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What happens in Ken Avidor, stays in Ken Avidor

See him invent a new form of prejudice

Lately this little anti-anti-PRT war has been heating up, and the last couple days I've gotten really excited about it. Not only has Daily Kos been the scene of a whopping 50+ comment thread of funny, but yesterday Kenmore hinted at yet more hilarity to come:

I can always tell when something really embarrassing has occurred for the PRT guys when Mr. Gow tries to distract me with his silly comment spam.

Stay tuned.

by K*n A***** on Mon May 04, 2009 at 09:45:43 AM PDT

I had no idea what he could be fantasizing about. And today we found out: the Masdar PRT "is a joke" because torture occurs in Abu Dhabi.:

It turns out the PRT system is a joke... but what do expect from a country where a prominent royal family member tortures people [ellipsis in original]
Source

You can read for yourself* the really excellent comments by environmentalists who tore Kenwood a new asshole, so I won't do a recap here.

I do want to highlight a particularly distasteful -- yet amusing -- gaffe by Kennel Ration:

Don't believe greenwashing hype... there is no way that Masdar can be "sustainable"... it's in a desert. [ellipses in original]
Source

He's saying people of desert nations can't live in sustainable conditions. As I wrote in response, "the Mideast had desert cities long before Western colonialism, by their very existence they were sustainable."

Wow. You can't have a sustainable city "in a desert." What do you call that kind of prejudice: "Biome-centric"?

Update: we have achieved today's "whatever"!

Read the whole shebang at Daily Kos.

* I did, it was great to start the day with a big laff. Be sure not to miss:

• He gets Dubai mixed up with Abu Dhabi/Masdar
• Maybe to him they all look alike? Thermidor confuses Sheikh Issa ("BOOO! HISS!!!") bin Zayed Al Nahyan with Sheikh Mohammed ("YAY!!!") bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

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Ken Avidor OF ARABIA!

Here comes the cloud of obfuscation

It's now the afterglow of Kiln Ovendoor's latest Daily Kos humiliation, so you know what that means, dontcha?

He has to do something to change the subject. As usual he's telegraphing his punch:

I can always tell when something really embarrassing has occurred for the PRT guys when Mr. Gow tries to distract me with his silly comment spam.

Stay tuned.

by K*n A***** on Mon May 04, 2009 at 09:45:43 AM PDT

"Stay tuned" means I'm frantically Googling right now. He'll take a bunch of unrelated items and combine them into something that fits his conspiracy theory. A little from Search A, a pinch from Search B, stir in some Search C; add bile and serve! (An example of this was his smear against Trevor Smallwood of ATS Ltd.*)

Notice also how Labridor is doing the time warp again -- he says I'm trying to distract him from an imaginary PRT embarrassment. Whereas in normal space-time I'm responding to his imaginary Morgantown news blogging that came first.

UPDATE! Kenwood says it has something to do with the New York Times and The Guardian. Funny, my Google News Alert has nothing PRT-wise from those esteemed journals.

UPDATE II: The cloud is more of a sandstorm.

* Notice how he has never repeated it!

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Ken Avidor takes the L out of Lover

Game canceled on account of LAME

The ink on the handshake agreement wasn't even dry yet, when the Minnesota anti-PRT propagandist wadded it up into a ball and ate it. And no way am I waiting for it come come out the other end. What I mean is -- THE DEBATE'S OFF. Sorry, sports fans. For no sooner had Labridor agreed to a debate at Daily Kos with the illustrious Atren--

I'll debate Mike or anyone about PRT, but it has to be a real debate in real time webcast or live.

Maybe your ATRA buddies can arrange it.

Speaking of ATRA, didn't Jeral Poskey resign as Chair of ATRA?

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 08:21:06 PM PDT

--and we seemed to have a dealio:

OK then! Assuming you're talking to me (Mike?), then alright, I see we have an agreement! Live is fine with me, so let's agree on a time and a forum where I can maintain my anonymity. I would be more than willing to do a webcast that does not involve video. A chat format would also do.

I am usually free nights and weekends, so name a time and I will let you know if I can do it.

Let's do it!

by transenth on Sat May 02, 2009 at 09:33:23 PM PDT

-- than Humidor was already making his un-move:

Transeth, ATE, Chris, Mike or whatever... I just said I won't debate anonymous people. I remember when you said you were a scientist.

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 10:46:43 PM PDT

Yeah, I did my best to try and salvage it:

No, you just agreed to debate Mike. As in "I'll debate Mike". He's not anonymous, he's Mike. Or Chris. Come on, K*n! Debate! Bring joy to the faces of children the world over!

by MrGrant on Sat May 02, 2009 at 11:58:25 PM PDT

But no. The weaseling-out could not be stopped:

Thanks for dropping by.
by K*n A***** on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:12:49 AM PDT

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Another copout :-) So you will debate anyone except those who accept your challenge to debate. Right? How convenient! :-) The basic problem here is that your idea of "debate" is to dig up as much irrelevant dirt on your opponent so you can turn the discussion into a circus and thereby hide the fact that your position is completely indefensible.
...
Whatever the case may be, the fact remains: you once again challenged debate, then copped out when I called your bluff. Some things never change.

by transenth on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:13:36 AM PDT

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Thank [sic] for dropping by.
by K*n A***** on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:24:32 AM PDT

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Once again, we leave K*n A***** speechless :-D Nicely done, Mr Grant! Once again, we've pushed him into a corner and closed off all avenues for retreat, and just like that, the most prolific blogging head in the entire state of Minnesota is at a loss for words.

Facts are powerful weapons, indeed.

BTW, K*n, the debate offer remains. Whenever you get the guts to accept, let me know.

by transenth on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:54:46 AM PDT

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Whatever...
by K*n A***** on Sun May 03, 2009 at 08:05:38 AM PDT

Well, at least we can all still have a laugh (or three):

*AIRHORN* Ladies, gentlemen and propadandists: we have our "whatever"! Do you think he does the eye-roll plus neck-roll when he types it?

by MrGrant on Sun May 03, 2009 at 12:56:02 PM PDT

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The WHATEVER Files

Whatever 9
Whatever 8
Whatever 7
Whatever 6 x 3
Whatever 5
Whatever 4
Whatever 3
Whatever 2
Whatever 1

by MrGrant on Sun May 03, 2009 at 01:08:12 PM PDT

Read Part I: ARE YOU READY FOR SOME GOOFBALL???

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ARE YOU READY FOR SOME GOOFBALL???

That's right PRTistas, Atren/A Transportation Enthusiast challenged Kennel Ration to a debate, and the party of the second part accepted!

Ovendoor let the sting of the leather gauntlet hang in the air for all of 21 months -- the challenge was made July 24, 2007.

So imagine my delight, when the most recent Daily Kos squirmish among Aviderm, Atren and myself brought this sequence of events:

Hey K*n, what about our debate? Since you bring up the "debate challenge" thing again, how about my open challenge to debate you? I've been waiting nearly two years for you to accept my challenge, but you refuse. Why is that, K*n?

by transenth on Sat May 02, 2009 at 06:51:52 PM PDT

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Sorry, Mike...
by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 07:21:55 PM PDT

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... I don't debate anonymous people... Mike.

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 07:22:57 PM PDT

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Great! So he's not anonymous, therefore I look forward to you debating "Mike." Although I thought you were already sure he is a 16 year old kid from Tonawanda named Chris...

by MrGrant on Sat May 02, 2009 at 08:04:36 PM PDT

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I'll debate Mike or anyone about PRT, but it has to be a real debate in real time webcast or live.

Maybe your ATRA buddies can arrange it.

Speaking of ATRA, didn't Jeral Poskey resign as Chair of ATRA?

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 08:21:06 PM PDT

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Assuming you're talking to me (Mike?), then alright, I see we have an agreement!

Live is fine with me, so let's agree on a time and a forum where I can maintain my anonymity. I would be more than willing to do a webcast that does not involve video. A chat format would also do.

I am usually free nights and weekends, so name a time and I will let you know if I can do it.

Let's do it!

by transenth on Sat May 02, 2009 at 09:33:23 PM PDT

Source

There you have it: the weasel-outing may finally be coming to an end!

So much to do. Gotta get a pack of poster board, markers and masking tape. Atren, you need to start a daily training regimen. Protein shakes! Pep rally! Cookout supplies for the Debate Day tailgate party! Wait. Calm down, get a grip.

Anywho, I'm excited. Watch this blog and Weiner Watch for further developments! Or undevelopments.

Read the undevelopments: Game canceled on account of LAME

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Ken Avidor's claims are highly debatable

Funny in progress!

See the spanking, at Daily Kos!


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Ken Avidor is a dish best served tepid