Game canceled on account of LAME

The ink on the handshake agreement wasn't even dry yet, when the Minnesota anti-PRT propagandist wadded it up into a ball and ate it. And no way am I waiting for it come come out the other end. What I mean is -- THE DEBATE'S OFF. Sorry, sports fans. For no sooner had Labridor agreed to a debate at Daily Kos with the illustrious Atren--

I'll debate Mike or anyone about PRT, but it has to be a real debate in real time webcast or live.

Maybe your ATRA buddies can arrange it.

Speaking of ATRA, didn't Jeral Poskey resign as Chair of ATRA?

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 08:21:06 PM PDT

--and we seemed to have a dealio:

OK then! Assuming you're talking to me (Mike?), then alright, I see we have an agreement! Live is fine with me, so let's agree on a time and a forum where I can maintain my anonymity. I would be more than willing to do a webcast that does not involve video. A chat format would also do.

I am usually free nights and weekends, so name a time and I will let you know if I can do it.

Let's do it!

by transenth on Sat May 02, 2009 at 09:33:23 PM PDT

-- than Humidor was already making his un-move:

Transeth, ATE, Chris, Mike or whatever... I just said I won't debate anonymous people. I remember when you said you were a scientist.

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 10:46:43 PM PDT

Yeah, I did my best to try and salvage it:

No, you just agreed to debate Mike. As in "I'll debate Mike". He's not anonymous, he's Mike. Or Chris. Come on, K*n! Debate! Bring joy to the faces of children the world over!

by MrGrant on Sat May 02, 2009 at 11:58:25 PM PDT

But no. The weaseling-out could not be stopped:

Thanks for dropping by.
by K*n A***** on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:12:49 AM PDT

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Another copout :-) So you will debate anyone except those who accept your challenge to debate. Right? How convenient! :-) The basic problem here is that your idea of "debate" is to dig up as much irrelevant dirt on your opponent so you can turn the discussion into a circus and thereby hide the fact that your position is completely indefensible.
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Whatever the case may be, the fact remains: you once again challenged debate, then copped out when I called your bluff. Some things never change.

by transenth on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:13:36 AM PDT

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Thank [sic] for dropping by.
by K*n A***** on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:24:32 AM PDT

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Once again, we leave K*n A***** speechless :-D Nicely done, Mr Grant! Once again, we've pushed him into a corner and closed off all avenues for retreat, and just like that, the most prolific blogging head in the entire state of Minnesota is at a loss for words.

Facts are powerful weapons, indeed.

BTW, K*n, the debate offer remains. Whenever you get the guts to accept, let me know.

by transenth on Sun May 03, 2009 at 07:54:46 AM PDT

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Whatever...
by K*n A***** on Sun May 03, 2009 at 08:05:38 AM PDT

Well, at least we can all still have a laugh (or three):

*AIRHORN* Ladies, gentlemen and propadandists: we have our "whatever"! Do you think he does the eye-roll plus neck-roll when he types it?

by MrGrant on Sun May 03, 2009 at 12:56:02 PM PDT

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The WHATEVER Files

Whatever 9
Whatever 8
Whatever 7
Whatever 6 x 3
Whatever 5
Whatever 4
Whatever 3
Whatever 2
Whatever 1

by MrGrant on Sun May 03, 2009 at 01:08:12 PM PDT

Read Part I: ARE YOU READY FOR SOME GOOFBALL???

gPRT

ARE YOU READY FOR SOME GOOFBALL???

That's right PRTistas, Atren/A Transportation Enthusiast challenged Kennel Ration to a debate, and the party of the second part accepted!

Ovendoor let the sting of the leather gauntlet hang in the air for all of 21 months -- the challenge was made July 24, 2007.

So imagine my delight, when the most recent Daily Kos squirmish among Aviderm, Atren and myself brought this sequence of events:

Hey K*n, what about our debate? Since you bring up the "debate challenge" thing again, how about my open challenge to debate you? I've been waiting nearly two years for you to accept my challenge, but you refuse. Why is that, K*n?

by transenth on Sat May 02, 2009 at 06:51:52 PM PDT

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Sorry, Mike...
by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 07:21:55 PM PDT

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... I don't debate anonymous people... Mike.

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 07:22:57 PM PDT

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Great! So he's not anonymous, therefore I look forward to you debating "Mike." Although I thought you were already sure he is a 16 year old kid from Tonawanda named Chris...

by MrGrant on Sat May 02, 2009 at 08:04:36 PM PDT

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I'll debate Mike or anyone about PRT, but it has to be a real debate in real time webcast or live.

Maybe your ATRA buddies can arrange it.

Speaking of ATRA, didn't Jeral Poskey resign as Chair of ATRA?

by K*n A***** on Sat May 02, 2009 at 08:21:06 PM PDT

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Assuming you're talking to me (Mike?), then alright, I see we have an agreement!

Live is fine with me, so let's agree on a time and a forum where I can maintain my anonymity. I would be more than willing to do a webcast that does not involve video. A chat format would also do.

I am usually free nights and weekends, so name a time and I will let you know if I can do it.

Let's do it!

by transenth on Sat May 02, 2009 at 09:33:23 PM PDT

Source

There you have it: the weasel-outing may finally be coming to an end!

So much to do. Gotta get a pack of poster board, markers and masking tape. Atren, you need to start a daily training regimen. Protein shakes! Pep rally! Cookout supplies for the Debate Day tailgate party! Wait. Calm down, get a grip.

Anywho, I'm excited. Watch this blog and Weiner Watch for further developments! Or undevelopments.

Read the undevelopments: Game canceled on account of LAME

gPRT
Ken Avidor's claims are highly debatable

Funny in progress!

See the spanking, at Daily Kos!


gPRT
Ken Avidor is a dish best served tepid

The Propagandist vs. Pancakes

This doesn't relate to PRT, but y'all will find this article amusing -- and sad. Thermidor applies his tactics to an artist he doesn't like:

Dan Lacey's bizarre pancake paintings land him fame beyond Gawker (City Pages)

Mmmm! Tasty crow!

"...there is no PRT project at London's Heathrow airport..."

—The Minnesota anti-PRT Propagandist
Oct. 18, 2005

(See any guideway anchored in dirt abutments in any of these videos?)

More tasty crow! (YouTube)

gPRT
Quoth the Raven, "Ken Avidor."

We LOVE the Minnesota anti-PRT Propagandist!

If you say Minnesota another time here, your message gets deleted. -Asko Kauppi

It was a love-in over at Asko Kauppi's blog (posts about the PRT@Heathrow conference). Check it out in the comments!



gPRT
"Why don't you just take Ken Avidor, and make that louder?" "These go to 11."

Underwhelming response

Here it is, April 14, 2009, and the comment areas on all my blogs remain distinctly non-flamey. This despite the Minnesota anti-PRT propagandist's March 5, 2009 long-winded call to his followers to man the barricades:

I invite our readers to go to Gow's many blogs and ask him questions about Bachmann and PRT. Source

For those of you playing along at home, the 100% lack of response to this marching order serves to confirm either of two alternate theories:

1) no one reads Kenjob
2) no one who reads him is paying attention.

What was it all about? Let's look at the operative passage in his post:

I invite David Gow to explain in the comments why PRT promoters thought it was a good idea back in 2005 to have Bachmann, Olson and Zimmermann promoting PRT and why Gow and his cohort ATE have all that crap on the web about me...
. . .
For example... [ellipsis in original] what is this PhotoShopped image of me as George Bush with Bachman's face on the seal from one of "Mr_Grant's" blogs supposed to mean?
Source*

Huh? As I recall he was right there (figuratively) when all that rigorous debunking and top-flight funny was being written! Was that not he, clomping Fudd-like through the cyberspace forest in search of 'Pewsonal Wabbit Twansit' ^{1, 2}?

Oh, he remembers all right, no one could be living that far out of the moment. That leaves one explanation: TICK-TOCK!! Here comes PRT Cottontail hopping down the guideway, in the form of the ULTra and 2getThere projects, and Kiln Ovendoor is bailing.

Rodiva doesn't have the courage of his convictions. By pretending not to know that he was the impetus for "all that crap," he's signaling a desire to revise history-- as in, "Anti-PRT? Moi?" But his is a futile hope, since (1) I would never remove any analysis, satire or graphics because his readership attacked me, and (2) his readership obviously doesn't care.

Here's the truly pathetic thing: He's not even acting like a real "skeptic." If I were an anti-PRT foamer like the Propagandist (or even a normal skeptic), the existence of operational PRT systems would do nothing to shake my questioning of the technology.

PRT projects are human-engineered projects, with sizable system integration requirements. A real skeptic would realize there is risk of failure in any such endeavor, sit back, and wait for the error reports to come in.

In the past Kenwood has mounted the most obsessive of propaganda campaigns against PRT, and hasn't been afraid to go on record claiming truth of even the most transparent falsehoods. He has had no compunction calling PRT supporters a multitude of offensive names.

But with respect to politics, why can't he take a position on one of the easiest questions of all?

At the Dump Bachmann blog, Labridor's "blogging" lets others do the hard work, regurgitating reportage by other bloggers and the news media. Little or none of it are his own opinions -- that would require command of facts and cogent analysis, and he's shown himself capable of neither.

Last month he noted that Rep. Michele Bachmann had another "eruption" during a radio interview -- but which I call tantamount to a call to armed insurrection.

Now, Bachmann is easy pickings. The more she acts as a GOP-approved talking head, the more chances she has to be stupid in public. And she does. She's the de facto leader of the Kongressional Kinda Krazy Kaucus, so it's Insert Foot almost every time she opens her mouth.

Yes, should be easy pickings. Yet all Kennel Ration can do is politely ask "Should Bachmann Be Censured for Her Recent Remarks?" and "I hope reporters ask Bachmann... whether her recent remarks should also be censured."

"Should"?
"Hope"?
"Whether?"

Come on Kenmore, it's a blog -- take a position already! This is the easy stuff! Here, let me show you: Yes! Michele Bachmann should be censured! Do it! Do it now!

There. Jeez.


Read the funny

* Since we're on the subject, here is my comment on Bachmann, Olson and Zimmermann getting their cooties on PRT: even broken clocks are right twice a day.

gPRTThere is no Ken Avidor Easter Egg in this post